BECOME THE MAN WOMEN WANT
29th of December 2014

How To Be Attractive To Women, Pt. 13: How To Move Your Body (Physical Movement)

Introduction:

How you move is a key indicator of your sexual fitness, and by developing and displaying physical skills in ways that matter to women, you will become significantly more attractive. In this episode, Tucker and Geoff explain why women find physical skills attractive, how to find skills that interest you, and how to display your physical skills to attract women.

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Key takeaways:

  • Being good at sports is attractive to women because in addition to being high status, being good at a sport shows that you’re healthy, strong, physical, and coordinated.
  • Go on dates that show off your physical skills. If you are good at dancing, go dancing, if you are good at shooting, go to a shooting range, if you’re good at driving, go to go-karts. Other examples include hiking, boating, camping, etc.
  • Self-defense training is foundational for guys. It will teach you humility, and it will teach you confidence. The best option for this is to go to a Brazilian jiu-jitsu academy or a muay thai academy.
  • If you want to do something and you don’t care what it is, dance classes are great. There are usually more women than men. The women there are usually a lot of fun. They want guys to dance. Your job is to touch women. And if you put in the time and effort, you’re gonna at least get good.

Podcast Audio Transcription:

Tucker:
Alright, so the last podcast that Geoff and I did was about physical health, body shape, weight, stuff like that. Basically, everything we told you guys was pretty simple stuff that you probably already know, at least in theory. You can’t be a fucking fat-ass. Right? You need to at least be in decent physical shape, and if you’re in good shape, that’s even better. But a lot of times when people talk about being in shape, and this is what we were talking about, the sort of underlying assumption is the shape that you’re in when you just stand there. Like, you see a picture of someone on a magazine cover, they’re not moving, they’re not dynamic, clearly it’s just a body. So, this podcast is gonna be about sort of what you do with your shape, meaning not just being in shape, but also how well do you move and then how can you use those movements to enhance your mating prospects? That might seem weird to hear, but basically, it means we’re gonna talk about what are athletic things you can do that are attractive to women. So, hiking, shooting, horse-riding, dancing, boating, camping, whatever. Sports. We’re gonna talk about all of these things and why they matter. Okay? So, let’s just basically start with the underlying assumption that how you move is a key indicator of your sexual fitness and your attractiveness to women. I know you know the study I’m talking about, Geoff. The one that just came out. There’s been a bunch of them, but there’s a really good one that just came out where – it was done in Portugal – where they put those sensors all over these dudes’ bodies, like, the ones that they use when they film video games to track natural human movement.

Geoff:
Oh, like little dots?

Tucker:
Yeah. Like, it was sort of like that but it was a little bit smaller ‘cause the technology’s better now. So, it wasn’t as conspicuous, so you didn’t look like a weirdo with all these fucking cotton balls all over you in the club. But they basically had sensors all over these dudes’ bodies, a bunch of them, and measured how they danced, and then actually followed them in the club, and…You know, the dance clubs in Portugal, it’s not like America. Those are sort of like the prime places you go to hook up and they’re much more fun than America. They actually followed, essentially what guys hooked up and they measured it to their dancing, and they found a super clear pattern between basically how good you dance had a direct relationship to how often you hooked up. I think the quality of women, actually. I don’t know if they actually measured that. But, whether you hooked up or not, I know they measured. So, god forbid, I can’t dance, you can’t dance, either, can you?

Geoff:
We both suck at dancing.

Tucker:
Right. We’re terrible dancers. You don’t have to – like, girls are always like, “Oh, why don’t you come dance with me?” And I’m like, “Gangsters don’t dance, bitch,” and they’re like, “You’re not a gangster.” I’m like, “I know, but I don’t dance, either.” Of course not. I’m a terrible dancer, so clearly you don’t need to dance to get laid. The point is, being good at physical movement – being athletic, being fluid, being graceful – is extraordinarily sexy to women and attractive, correct?

Geoff:
Yeah, ‘cause bear in mind, guys, the whole point of having a central nervous system and a brain is integrative control of movement. Your nervous system is literally there to control your movement, your skills, how you deploy your body through space and time. So, if you want to show how well your nervous system works, you have to move. Just go for it. Creatively.

Tucker:
So, here’s the thing. The last thing I want this podcast to be is telling you what you have to be good at skill-wise. I’m really good at sports. Geoff’s not so good at sports. Like, there’s a bunch of things we could talk about. Here’s the most important point: there’s not any one thing that you have to be good at in terms of athletic movement. You just have to be good at at least one or two things. So, it’s fucking anything you want. I don’t really give a shit. It kind of doesn’t matter, as long as it displays some sort of skill or ability that involves physical movement.

Geoff:
Yeah. You don’t have to be good specifically at sports, but you should understand why women are attracted to athletes. You don’t have to be great at Tango, but you have to understand why women are attracted to guys who are great at Tango.

Tucker:
So, let’s actually talk about that, because I think there’s a big subset of guys in America who get upset. “Oh, sports are stupid, football’s stupid, fuck this,” whatever, right? Look, I love sports on one hand. On the other hand, I’m one of those weird kids who grew up and I was in all the AP advanced classes, so I was friends with all the nerds, but I also played sports. So, it’s like I always saw both sides. Like, the jocks were kind of fucking assholes and douches in certain ways, but sports are fucking awesome and fun, right? The nerds were smart and really cool and usually pretty nice, but they were also really fucking lame at a lot of shit in their lives, right? So, it was like both sides only saw – and of course, this is a gross stereotype. But both sides only saw what’s cool about my side and bad about their side, and the reality is, both sides are right and wrong. So, let’s talk for a second to explain. Jocks, I think, understand. Guys who love sports understand why women like sports, right? Let’s talk for a second about the guys who don’t understand. Explain to them why sports are so attractive to women.

Geoff:
Well, a key thing is, if you think back in prehistory, there was no such thing as a sedentary good provider. Right? There’s nobody who’s just sitting around, designing webpages, making millions of dollars and providing his girlfriend with food and shelter. In order to hunt and fight and do all that survival stuff at a competitive environment, you have to get off your ass and move.

Tucker:
Well, here’s the thing, too. Understand, when Geoff says of the hunt and fight and move, even when there’s a lot of pre-agricultural tribes that divide labor, so it’s not like everyone had to be a great athlete or everyone had to be the best hunter. If you were the dude who made spears, right? For example, let’s say you weren’t a very good hunter, but you made spears, that’s a skill, a physical skill that’s highly valued. So, you might not be the alpha, but you have a place in the hierarchy that’s important. I think that’s sort of your point, right?

Geoff:
Yeah. And almost all these skills involve some amount of physical effort. Like, even the spear-maker has to go out and gather the right wood and maybe travel twenty miles to trade…

Tucker:
Dude, have you ever tried to make a fucking spear? It’s hard.

Geoff:
I have not tried to make a spear.

Tucker:
I actually have. It’s fucking hard, dude. You think, “Oh, how hard could it be to make it?” Dude, making a bow is, like, ridiculous. It’s really hard! Really hard. It’s really physical work. It’s really difficult work.

Geoff:
I’ve done a lot of, like, house renovating and making furniture, working with wood and that stuff, and yeah. It’s also hard work. And, you know, there’s always danger in these things, so you can go out and make a spear, hunt, fish, whatever, and come back with all your fingers and toes intact, that’s…

Tucker:
Well, let’s get back to sports. Why are sports so – there’s the obvious thing that sports are highly esteemed in our society and that if you play them, you do anything that has a lot of social value or is highly esteemed, you’re gonna get attention and people are gonna like that, right? But let’s think about why do women care so much? If I’m a 17-year-old World of Warcraft nerd, and I don’t understand why girls like these awful football players. So, explain to me why do they care? I get that football’s popular, but these guys are awful, Geoff. I don’t understand, you know?

Geoff:
Yeah. One bad thing that happens in American high schools is guys are already kind of overspecialized in terms of either signaling physical health and movement skill – the jocks, or they’re overspecialized in signaling intelligence, like the AP nerds. But in prehistory, what women are attracted to is jack of all trades, the guy who can do everything pretty well, at least. So, being a great athlete means, for one thing, you have a high energy throughput, you can literally produce a lot of watts and energy and calories. You can convert food into activity well, and that requires a healthy body, low parasite load, you’re not infected, you don’t have disease, you’re young, and you somehow got the food that enabled all that activity, which is not easy. So, high energy throughput is a fundamental thing that many, many male animals display in courtship. When birds do courtship displays, like aggressive dives where they have to dive really fast in the air and then stop suddenly. That’s like doing high-intensity interval training. They’re displaying, “I can produce a lot of watts for my little bird body,” and the little female birds go, “Wow, that’s cool. That’s impressive. He can escape predators, he can find food, support my little nestlings. That’s great.”

Tucker:
Alright, so what you’re saying, basically, is that aside from the social implication of sports, that sports are high status, they also – if you’re good at a sport, it means you’re healthy, strong, physical, coordinated. These are all, on a primal level, very attractive to women. And then also, it’s hard to be good at sports and be out of shape. Even the examples you would want to say, oh, offensive linemen or whatever, right? Those guys are fat. Okay, they’re actually not. They kind of look fat ‘cause they’re 6’6” and 340 pounds and so all you see is their belly. First off, it’s actually very rare to find a fat offensive lineman. Most of those guys are somewhere between 8 and 15% body fat, which puts them in the upper 10% of American men in terms of body fat. Also, those guys are incredibly agile. Most guys can run under 5 second 40-yard dashes, which means they can outrun most fucking guys in America. The vast majority. 99% of guys in America. They’re incredibly quick and their job is to stop guys like DeMarcus Ware, who are 6’6”, 290, and he is 6% body fat and that dude’s, like, a beast. I mean this in the least racist way possible. It’s almost like a gorilla, like, on the field. I mean that as a compliment to his athleticism and his strength. That dude’s amazing. Someone’s got to stop him, and you think it’s all these fat guys. These dudes are really athletic. These are super athletic dudes, and those are the ones that people think are fat and out of shape. They’re not remotely. Not in the least bit.

Geoff:
A second thing about sports is that they’re competitive and observable, so a woman can kind of sit back and watch two guys compete, right? Spar or two teams compete. And she doesn’t have to understand all of the details of the sport.

Tucker:
That was my next point.

Geoff:
All she has to understand is that they are competing intensely with each other, that it’s hard to fake who wins.

Tucker:
Right. It’s an honest signal.

Geoff:
It’s an honest signal, and she just has to be attracted to the winner. And she can observe what they do and that’s attractive and beautiful to her. That’s a work of genius on the part of women, to get guys to ritualize how they move, how they display their athletic skills, how they compete, to do it in front of the women rather than going off ten miles away and hunting, where the women can’t see you hunt.

Tucker:
Yeah. They only know if you brought back food or not.

Geoff:
But sports, they can actually watch.

Tucker:
Right, so I think that was actually my next point, and it’s a super good point that I think guys need to realize. There are plenty of women who care about sports, right? But there are also plenty who don’t give a fuck about sports. But, even the ones that don’t give a shit about sports, like, I’ll never forget in college, I dated this girl. She was Asian, she was Korean, and she basically had no…I don’t want to say she had no concept of sports because that sounds ridiculous, but sports were something that Americans did or whatever. Obviously, they have sports in Korea, but wherever she grew up, she just didn’t care. I’ll never forget, we had to do something together, and she was at my place. She spent the night at my place, and I had an intermural soccer game the next day, right? This is a girl I was already sleeping with. I just went, “Hey, baby, come watch my game, and then we’ll go get lunch or something.” Whatever, right? And she’s like, “I don’t care about soccer.” I’m like, “I don’t, either, but soccer’s fun to play.” Anyway, so ‘cause this is the University of Chicago and I’m a decent athlete, of course I look like fucking Ronaldo out there, even though I’m not even that good at soccer. It’s not that hard to look good compared to the other fucking nerds at the University of Chicago. I scored, like, three goals in the game, blah blah, this and that. I’ll never forget this in my life. When we were leaving the field, she was like, “Oh, my god, you looked so amazing out there.” I’m not gonna do her Asian accent because I’m bad at it and that would be really racist, but she’s like, “You looked so amazing out there. That was so cool. I’ve never seen a guy I dated play sports.” She was, like, ten times more into me, and she was already into me! She was walking around with my cum inside of her and she was already into me, but way more into me. Like, after that it was like…and she didn’t even care about sports! She couldn’t have given a fuck. I’ll never forget that in my life. It was one of those mind-blowing things when I was like, “Wow, and this is soccer, too!” Of course, I’m like eighteen at the time, right? ‘Cause I’m like, “Oh, no one cares about soccer. If she saw me play football or basketball, then she’d be impressed.” ‘Cause I’m an idiot, clearly, ‘cause I don’t understand as an 18-year-old, it’s not about the sport. It’s about the displays of athleticism, agility, health, and displays of dominance and social status. Alright, so what else? We got that whole story with the girl, right?

Geoff:
Oh, I had one more point about that. So, even the nerdiest girls have had sexual fantasies about some kind of athlete. Even if they won’t admit that they’re attracted to jocks, they, in their heart of hearts, would like a boyfriend who at least has physical capabilities of some sort.

Tucker:
Perfect example. If you look at fantasy fiction or World of Warcraft or all that stuff, none of the heroes are fat slobs. Even if…You don’t call them athletes the way you think of an athlete in America, but they’re elves who are amazing with a bow or they’re rangers who have great sword skills. Look at Lord of the Rings, man! All those dudes are sick athletes. You can’t fucking fight hand-to-hand combat for hours without being an insane athlete, right? So, guys, this is the point. The point is not you have to care about sports at all. If you don’t care about sports, fuck sports. No one gives a shit. Right? What matters is that whatever it is you do care about that involves movement, be good at it. So, let’s talk now a little bit about some things that guys can do with girls that are movement-based, either on dates or ways to meet women or whatever. Because I think guys need specific examples. We’re not gonna talk about sports as an example, ‘cause if you’re good at football, then you already understand how that gets you girls. So, here’s one that I know you can talk about and that I’ve talked about. So, if you like guns. I like guns. I mean, I grew up hunting. It’s funny, I don’t think I even like guns or dislike guns. Guns have just always been a part of my life. It was never even an option to me. It was like, of course you know how to shoot. So, I’ve taken a lot of girls on dates to gun ranges. Of course, I ask them ahead of time, do you want to go learn to shoot? If she’s like, “Oh, my god, no, guns should be illegal,” I’m like alright. We’re not gonna do that. If she’s like, “Yeah, of course, that sounds cool,” then I take her. I know you’re a big gun enthusiast, too. What have you found?

Geoff:
I mean, I only got interested, like, in the last year. Before that, I was that anti-gun liberal…

Tucker:
For real?

Geoff:
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I was, like, tweeting about blood on the NRA’s hands for the school shootings, blah blah blah. And then I went to a shooting range and went, “Oh, my god, this is so much fun.”

Tucker:
Then you talk about that. So, I’ll tell you the first time I ever took a girl to teach her to shoot, she was asking me. It never occurred to me that this would be a way to bond with a girl on a date or be attracted to her. I’ve experienced doing it with girls. You have experience both ways, where you taught women and done it recently. So, what’s it like going to a shooting range the first time? What is it that’s invigorating and what do you think girls like, specifically, about it?

Geoff:
Well, one thing is it’s a really alien environment and alien culture, so if you haven’t been there, it’s kind of intimidating and scary, particularly if you didn’t grow up with guns.

Tucker:
It is. Because they’re guns!

Geoff:
Yeah. They’re dangerous weapons. And most guys and women, they’re whole experience with guns is watching action films. They associate it with murder and mayhem and chaos and threat.

Tucker:
And most of those dudes don’t use guns properly, ‘cause it’s in the movies.

Geoff:
Yeah. Right. ‘Cause it’s about the drama, not gun safety. Like John Woo movies. Trigger control sucks in those. So, it’s an alien environment. It’s a high arousal environment, women either love it or hate it.

Tucker:
‘Cause there’s real danger!

Geoff:
It’s real danger. But also, because women have grown up with American TV and action films, they associate being a hero with being able to handle that technology. Just like if she was an ancient Spartan woman, she expects you to master the sword and the spear and the weapon technology of the day. American women have grown up seeing guns as that technology, so no matter what her politics, no matter what her ideology, if you’re frightened of guns and you can’t use them and you’re conspicuously unsafe and frightened of them, that’ll be a turnoff. That’s another skill worth doing. Just spending the weekend and get your concealed carry permit, which is mostly about gun safety.

Tucker:
Here’s the thing. Let me make this clear. We’re not saying you need to learn how to shoot to pick up girls. Again, for everything we’re gonna talk about in this episode, if you like it, then use it. You don’t think of shooting as an athletic skill, but it actually is. It requires good vision, good aiming, steady arm control. It’s not, like, the same as going to the hole in the NBA, but it’s still an athletic activity. And it’s actually, in a lot of ways, better than a lot of athletic activities, going…ice-skating with a girl or something, ‘cause that’s not dangerous. Going shooting is dangerous, legitimately. So, I’ve taken I don’t know how many girls, ten or twenty girls on first or second dates to gun ranges. It’s not like I’m like, “Hey, we’re going on a date,” and I just show up at the gun range. It’s like, “Do you want to learn to shoot?” “I’d love to.” “Then, we’ll go to a range, I’ll teach you, and then we’ll go to dinner or something.” What I’ve found is that if the woman wants – and you’re right, a lot of them were not super pro-gun. They don’t have to be crazy girls from Arkansas, killing pigs on the weekend or going boar hunting on the weekend. They just think learning a new skill. So, taking a girl to a gun range if you know how to shoot. You get a chance to display your knowledge. You get a chance to teach it to someone. You get a chance to be empathetic and patient as you teach. You get a chance to show off something you’re good at that she’s not good at. You get a chance to take her into a very dangerous environment where you’re in control. You get a chance to teach her how to operate in a dangerous environment so she’s not afraid of it anymore, so you show your power and you empower her. It’s this super great way to go on a date, obviously, if the girl’s into it. So, I think this is a good example of how and why physical skills matter.

Geoff:
Yeah, so mostly here, guys, we’re just talking you through all the amazing traits that are displayed by these activities. Going to the gun range and teaching a girl how to shoot, you’re there as her protector, so that immediately puts her in the role of that tender defender, right? Where you’re kind of looking out for her, given all the other threat and noise around her. But you’re also being a mentor where you’re teaching her a skill. Why is that important? Because she’s unconsciously assessing how good a dad would you be? If you can teach her how to shoot when she’s starting out scared of guns, she’ll kind of unconsciously infer, “Hey, that’s interesting. He could teach my sons and daughters useful skills, too.”

Tucker:
And again, it doesn’t matter if you’re looking for marriage or not. A girl just looking for a one-night stand or just looking for a casual hookup is still unconsciously assessing the same things. So, let’s talk about something that’s totally opposite that is basically the exact same thing. Another way to display physical skill, strength, health, etc. I actually think this is not just a great way to meet girls, but it’s also a great way to display these traits, is doing something like Habitat for Humanity, right? You build a house. It’s not easy to pick things up, heavy things, show skills with a hammer, to do all these sorts of things. Now, look, if you can’t fucking nail a nail into a board, maybe don’t do Habitat for Humanity, just like if you don’t know how to shoot, don’t take a fucking girl to a gun range! That would be a disaster. That would be the worst thing. The point we’re making here is whatever skills you have, use them around women that you’re attracted to or trying to meet. Habitat for Humanity also, by the way, is a great way to meet girls. Twenty, fifty people building a house. A good portion of them are gonna be young girls who are either single or have single friends. Let’s think of some other things, some good examples. These are either ways you can meet women or things to do with women that will display your physical skills. Climbing, like rock climbing is fantastic if you’re good at that, if you like it. Hiking, obviously, going on a trail hike or something. Even just a wilderness hike. You don’t have to be in amazing shape to do that. We did shooting. Dude, you know what’s cool? Not just…you can obviously go go-kart driving. I was thinking about this the other day, is there are tracks where you can do not combative, but competitive driving. Like, with real cars. Not just go-karts. Go-karts are fun, so go-karts are definitely one if you love driving and you’re good at driving, you should definitely take girls go-karting. That’s super fun. Or, if you live near one of those Skip Barber Racing Schools or whatever, then you can go competitive driving. Super fun. She’ll love that, and if you’re better than her, it’ll make you feel good and you can teach her stuff, etc. Horse riding. Lots of women love horses, which is a whole, separate discussion. Boating, if you’re good on the water. Stand-up paddle boarding, kayaking, anything on the water like that. What are some other things? Obviously dancing. If you like dancing, I think you probably already know that that’s gonna get you laid. That’s the sort of thing. Guys, if you’re not a dancer, you probably know guys that are good at dancing and that gets them laid. This is why. Even something as simple as mini golf, like, if you’re even half decent at mini-golf, mini-golf is really fun, you can drink, you have a lot of fun, everyone can do it, and if you can teach a girl something or interact with her…Just being better at mini-golf makes you more attractive, as stupid as that sounds. It’s actually true, though.

Geoff:
And you can see this if you pay attention to the Facebook feeds of your female friends. What photos of dates do they post? Do they post photos of their dinner dates where you’re sitting, sedentary, across a table from a guy?

Tucker:
On Instagram, they might take pictures of the food.

Geoff:
Yeah. Maybe the food, if it’s expensive and beautifully presented. But even mini-golf, even a photo of a hike, even a photo of parasailing, whatever it is. If they can photograph it and it’s cool and it increases their status among their peers, it’s an active date, so much better. Because you can demonstrate such a wider array of traits and competencies on those active dates than just, “Let’s go out for ice cream.”

Tucker:
Exactly. We’re gonna talk more about dates…We’re probably gonna go back over this, maybe in a few months when we do the dating podcast, like what to do on dates. We’re talking about this now simply because it’s an extension of health and wellness and shape. Movement is an extension. Guys don’t think of it that way, but it is. So, let’s actually talk now about there’s one aspect of movement that I think is under-emphasized and I think it will really help a lot of guys. Again, remember, nothing we’re telling you guys is absolutely prescriptive. None of this is you have to X to get girls. Over and over, the point is find the thing that you like and you’re good at and use that. Right? Use that as a way to meet girls, as a way to demonstrate health and wellness and fitness to girls, as a way to interact with women. Okay. Now, that being said, in my personal opinion, I think self-defense training, specifically jiu-jitsu and MMA, are absolutely foundational for guys. I’m not saying you have to do it. I’m telling you that when I started doing it in ’07, it changed my life. Absolutely, unequivocally. I’ve written a bunch of stuff. I’ll link all that stuff that I’ve written about it, ‘cause I don’t want to go into a two-hour soliloquy for rolling around with half-naked guys on the ground. But, seriously, though. In all seriousness, I’ve given a lot of speeches about this and I’ve talked a lot about this. Here’s the thing. First off, you can talk, Geoff, in a second about why women find this attractive. For me personally, what fighting taught me was it taught me two big things. First big thing it taught me was humility. When you start off with any self-defense training, and we’ll talk in a second about the ones you should and shouldn’t do, I started with MMA and Brazilian jiu-jitsu and muay thai. MMA, which is sort of a combination of jiu-jitsu and muay thai. It doesn’t matter how good of an athlete you are or how badass you are or how tough you are or what you can do with a gun. When you step on the mats, if you’re untrained, you’re gonna get your ass handed to you immediately and you’re gonna have to learn how to tap immediately or you get arms broken, you get choked out. You’re just being an idiot if you do that. No one does that. So, you learn humility. The best athletes in the world come in and get choked out in the beginning and say, “Okay, you tap. No big deal. You move on.” So, you learn, okay, this is a good microcosm of the world. Then the other thing you learn is you learn real confidence. Because you have to be humble at the beginning. You have to be. Untrained people cannot compete with trained people. It’s not about you. It’s about the system. Because you have to be humble at the beginning, then you develop skills and you keep coming back and you get better and better and you get better, and then all of a sudden…Real confidence, we’re gonna have a whole podcast about confidence. We’re gonna dive deep into this, but I’m gonna tell you this right now. Confidence comes from demonstrated performance. A key aspect of male identity is the ability to defend yourself in a dangerous situation. We don’t live in a dangerous world in America, so we have this weird sort of dichotomy in America where violence is looked down upon and everyone thinks no violence, but that’s not really what we’re sort of bred to do or how we’re evolved to be, and that’s not really the case in real life. We’ll get to that when we talk about violence in another podcast. But, the point is, once you know how to fight, you know how to handle yourself and you have a real inner confidence. Those are the two things I took from MMA. So, what do you…?

Geoff:
Yeah, I had pretty much the same experience. When I was a teenager, I got up to brown belt in taekwondo, and it helped enormously for kind of a geeky guy like me, that yeah, I know how to kick and punch. And I didn’t consciously understand at that point that I was kind of building my confidence, compensating for not being a jock or whatever. But it does help enormously, and it’s not just defending yourself. It’s defending the woman.

Tucker:
Both. Both are very important.

Geoff:
That’s what the woman is tuned into. Not just, “Oh, if a bunch of knife-wielding ninjas go after my boyfriend, can he survive?” Not, it’s, “If they come after me, can he protect me?”

Tucker:
Let’s actually talk about it for a second. I want you explain, because I hinted at this. So, I know a lot of fighters, like guys like Mac Danzig – he was my first MMA coach, go down the list, right? It’s crazy…Musicians do the best with women. Second-best, you kind of put athletes into this broad category. I’ll tell you, though, within the athlete category, I don’t think anyone does better than professional fighters, whether it’s boxers or pro-MMA fighters. George St-Pierre? I’ve never seen anyone do better with women than George St-Pierre. Granted, he’s really attractive, but also, he’s one of the best fighters in the world. So, why don’t you talk for a second. Why are women so attracted to…’Cause here’s the thing, George is not…you think of a fighter, oh, a violent, mindless brute. George is a really smart, really articulate dude. He’s the furthest thing from a mindless brute. Why are women so attracted to men who have martial capabilities?

Geoff:
The thing about fighting is it’s the least ritualized sport. It’s the highest stakes. It’s the one that’s hardest to fake.

Tucker:
I know what you mean. Let me just, for one second, interrupt you. Ritualized means…here’s the thing. Joe Rogan said this. He said all sports are just a fight with a ball and a bat in between the fight. I think what you’re saying, Dr. Miller, is fighting is no bullshit. Fighting is truth. Basketball is a fight with a ball. You win the game, and it’s like, “Well, I could still beat you in a fight.” In a fight, if you win the fight, there’s no “I could” or whatever. There’s no something else. You lost the fight. That’s it. That’s the end. Correct?

Geoff:
Yeah. It’s the ultimate test of your capabilities as a male doing male versus male competition. Because in prehistory, if you win the fight, typically that means the other guy is literally injured or dead and taken out of the mating market entirely. So, the stakes could not be higher. I think women tap into that at a primal level if they’re watching MMA and they’re into it, they can literally see who would have won a prehistoric competition 50,000 years ago, and that is very compelling at a primal level. If they watch a couple guys playing ping pong, they can kind of admire the athleticism and the skill, but it’s a little harder to translate that into, “Oh, if the chips were down, he could protect me ‘cause his awesome ping pong skills would translate into the violence arena.” That’s a little more of a stretch.

Tucker:
This is a jarring thought for a lot of people, ‘cause we live in a society that distances itself so much from violence and takes so many…Look, I’m not arguing against that. I like a low-society violence. It allows us to be productive. It allows us to interact. That’s a good thing. But the reality still is, the underlying currency of all human interaction is still ultimately violence. If you don’t believe that, then don’t pay your taxes. What’s gonna happen? Men show up at your house with guns and they take your shit, right? Make no mistake about it. The underlying currency of all human interaction is violence. Now, we live in an evolved society where violence is so distant from most of our interactions that most people don’t think about it, and that’s a good thing, but it’s just like our conscious is always with us no matter what we do or say or think, violence is sort of the same way. It goes back to what we were talking about in earlier podcasts, about how the primary thing a woman is thinking about when she meets a strange man is what? “Is he going to kill me or assault me or rape me? Is he gonna hurt me physically?” That is the deep, unconscious thought for all women, and there’s a reason for that. Women have evolved to be that way, because in reality – Louis C.K. has this great riff on this. Like, we’re the most dangerous thing that women have to face, are men. Not just today, but over the whole history of hominids, the most dangerous thing to a female, at least humans, are not predators. They’re actually males.

Geoff:
Yeah, to paraphrase Walter White from Breaking Bad, we are not in danger. We are the danger to women.

Tucker:
Yeah. Even though you’re not and I’m not and our listeners are not. Like, you can sit there and be like, “But I’m not dangerous.” Okay, guess what, dude. That’s not the point. The world doesn’t revolve around you, man. The world revolves around what the world is, and men as a group are dangerous, even if you are not. Right? That actually brings us full-circle. If you can defend yourself and your woman against those men who are dangerous, you are exceedingly attractive to women, because now she’s able to be with you and know you can handle a situation.

Geoff:
And ethically, guys, you can say, “I’m against violence. I’m a pacifist.” Great. We are too. Absolutely. But the point here is, the more self-defense you know, the more formidable and confident you appear in public, the less likely other guys are to fuck with you, right?

Tucker:
This is real. This is not bullshit. Tons of studies have shown this. So, with cops, there’s a very famous study that they took – I forget which police department. I think it might have been Reno or whatever. They trained half the cops in police-based MMA, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and then the other half, just no training. Just normal, whatever, cop training, which is bullshit. They followed them for, like, a year, and the cops that were untrained were three times more likely to have to resort to force to subdue suspects. The police didn’t believe it. They all thought it was bullshit. So, they dove deep into the study and they realized that the cops who were trained were super confident in themselves and their ability to handle stuff and that fundamentally changed the interaction with the criminals. The criminals didn’t resist ‘cause they read the confidence in the cops, or the confident ones were able to…It’s weird, people will react to you based on the signals that you put out to them. I don’t mean this in a goofy, magic way. Body language, etc. If you know you can fight, you put out a very different energy and set of situations than if you don’t. And it’s empirically true, over and over. You mentioned this a couple of podcasts ago. The MMA fighter that smiles at the weigh-in is something like two times more likely to lose. Smiling is submission. It’s an unconscious sign of submission.

Geoff:
Right. These cues are subtle, but bear in mind, guys, that we have tens of thousands of generations of male ancestors or failed ancestors assessing each other’s formidability and confidence and capacity for violence. We have really finely honed perception skills to do this. We’re as good at evaluating male formidability as evaluating female fertility or beauty. So, we’re leaking these cues, we’re sending these signals all the time.

Tucker:
They’re signals! Goes back to our signaling episode.

Geoff:
Yeah. And this stuff is hard to fake, so you’ve got to learn…Well, you don’t have to. I recommend you learn some MMA or even some street fighting, krav maga…

Tucker:
Let’s talk specifically. I’m on board. What do I learn? So, it kind of depends. I think, if you just want to learn…It depends on what your goals are. I would personally tell you, and this is what I like and I do and I think, but I don’t necessarily think this applies to everybody. In my opinion, the best thing to do is go to a really good Brazilian jiu-jitsu academy or a really good muay thai academy. Muay thai is stand-up, it’s Thai boxing, where you’re not just punching, but you’re kicking, knees, elbows, which is sort of like the foundational striking art for MMA. I would start with either Brazilian jiu-jitsu or muay thai, and then from there, you can go into MMA. You kind of graduate up to MMA. You combine the two. Almost any good place will teach either all three or two of the three. But that takes time and it can be very intimidating to walk into those places if someone hasn’t walked you in. I’ve probably gotten ten or twenty people started on it who love it now, and I think maybe one or two of them would’ve started on their own. So, if you’re intimidated but you want to do that, I would call places in your area, ask if they have a beginner program or maybe do private lessons for the first one or two, something like that. That’s what I would recommend. Now, if that’s too much for you or you’re not into that, I think krav maga is the way to go. You’ve done a lot of krav.

Geoff:
I haven’t done any krav. I keep encouraging my daughter in London to take krav maga lessons, ‘cause that’s the Israeli martial art that is pretty cool because it’s extremely pragmatic, and every time the Israeli defense forces go out and they have an encounter, they come back and they analyze and they figure out what worked and what didn’t work in terms of unarmed combat moves. Then, they integrate it back into krav maga.

Tucker:
The point of krav is to totally disable people.

Geoff:
This is dirty, dirty street fighting. This is not MMA with rules. This is what actually works when you’re surrounded by hostiles.

Tucker:
Hold on. So, you understand that krav is based on, the foundational elements of krav are the same as the foundational elements of Brazilian jiu-jitsu and MMA. Brazilian jiu-jitsu started as a street art, too. Actually, it started, really, as MMA. It’s extraordinarily effective on the street. So, the rules of MMA are, like, you can’t gouge someone’s eyes, you can’t pull their fucking nuts off, you can’t fishhook them.

Geoff:
You can’t bite them.

Tucker:
Right. You can add that shit in really easily. Krav maga is just MMA with that stuff added. It’s MMA without rules. That’s why I think MMA is better, is because the problem is krav will help you for the first five seconds, and if you don’t disable the attacker in those five seconds and you don’t know what else to do, you’re in real trouble whereas I fear no man for no amount of time in no fight. If he has a gun, that changes shit. If he has a knife, things are gonna be a little different, but I’m still alright. Unarmed, no fear.

Geoff:
Guys, one other thing I’d recommend, and you can do this in a one-day course, is there’s this thing called simunitions training that a lot of local gun ranges do. What this is, is you carry, like, a little glock that shoots paintballs in a holster. You’re put in these situations where you have to make an assessment about threat, so you’re literally standing in a gun range with a hood over your head. The hood is pulled off, and then there’s one to three guys, the trainers, wearing some armor and face shields, and they’re either benign or they’re threatening. You don’t know what the situation is. It could be three guys pretending to try to mug you. It could be one crazy street person who’s either pan handling or maybe trying to steal your wallet, you don’t know. And the threats escalate gradually, the way they would in the street. What you’re trained to do is use your movement, evaluate the threat, use verbal commands, use verbal shock tactics before you escalate to even drawing the gun. Then, you realize, even when you’re forced to draw, it’s really different shooting under stress when you feel the adrenaline moving through your body, making your hands shake. So, if you want to get closest to the way an actual street encounter would feel, simunitions training, in certain ways, can get even closer than jiu-jitsu can.

Tucker:
No doubt. ‘Cause they have weapons. MMA is not trained for weapons.

Geoff:
Yeah. They’ve got the rubber knives or they’ve got their own simunitions pistols. They can be dressed like street thugs. It can be three guys on you rather than just one on one sparring. It’s very compelling, and if you’ve never experienced the adrenaline rush in physical conflict, you need to at least experience that.

Tucker:
Yep. There’s a reason Mike Tyson said this. It’s a famous quote. “Everyone has a plan until they get hit.” It’s because of exactly what you just said. Everyone thinks they’re awesome until the shit goes down and then you have to see how you react. Here’s the thing. You can fail. What’s cool about these things. All the things we’re talking about put you in very high-stress situations as training. Because even if you’re fucking terrible at the beginning – the first time I sparred, like, really sparred, I was mortified. I didn’t shit my pants, but I wanted to, and I basically got my ass handed to me. But, by the end of the day, I was sparring okay. I was at least not embarrassing. Six months later, I’m sparring the guys in the UFC. You can start off as a piece of shit and end up becoming, at least, competent. I don’t know if there’s such thing as really good at violence. There is. But the point is, you can learn this and develop it and what happens is exactly what you talked about. You get super confident and what’s cool is this confidence calms you down in stressful situations, because what happens is you’ve seen this before. Anxiety and stress comes along when you don’t know how to react to a situation and your body goes into fight or flight and if you don’t know how to deal with that and manage it, that’s when you freeze up. That’s when you choke. That’s literally the science of choking, is exactly this. But if you’ve seen it before, if you’ve dealt with it before, if you know how to handle your emotions, you don’t get tunnel vision, you don’t freak out and it’s like, boom, you’ve got it. We’re actually gonna have…one of the experts we’re gonna interview is this guy Cade Courtley. He’s a friend of mine. He’s done a bunch of TV shows. Fourteen years a Navy Seal, all this kind of stuff. He’s gonna talk very specifically about this stuff. He’s really good at talking about it, but yeah. Simunitions is fantastic, too, I think. That’s great. I haven’t done that. I’ve done similar stuff. It’s fucking crazy, man. You think you can handle a gun and then you go into a kill house and you’re like, “Oh, I just killed six people. None of them were terrorists. Oh, shit.”

Geoff:
Simunitions is also cool because it wraps the legal context around violence, so you get to brief after each encounter. After the first encounter is basically a guy approaching me, pretending to be a little bit of a schizophrenic street person and talking crazy. My first response was, “Well, there’s a glock on my hip.” So, I drew and shot him.

Tucker:
You shot a homeless, crazy person!

Geoff:
Right. Boom. Two shots, center mask. And then the instructors, like, okay, Professor Miller. Now, you’re in front of the jury. Why did you have to use deadly force. “’Cause he was kind of crazy and threatening…”

Tucker:
Did they at least teach you the code words? Did they teach you legal code words? First off, don’t talk to the cops. “Officer, I’m happy to comply with any legal command, but I need to talk to my lawyer before I tell you anything.” Number one. Number two, “I felt threatened. I thought he was going to kill me.” Those are the code words. I felt threatened.

Geoff:
Yeah. So, they cover all this legal stuff, and if you don’t know that, you can get big, big trouble. It will ruin your life.

Tucker:
Yes, going to jail will ruin your life!

Geoff:
All your money. Years of trials. Civil lawsuits.

Tucker:
I can’t believe you put two rounds in a homeless dude.

Geoff:
But, dude, the other three guys in the class who had concealed carry permits, they did exactly the same thing.

Tucker:
‘Cause you guys are all itching to fucking shoot people.

Geoff:
Yeah. ‘Cause you’re trained in American culture. You’ve got a gun, you should use it.

Tucker:
You know what’s funny, when I moved to Texas? You know I live right on the lake in Downtown, and me and Murph would go walk the lake or whatever.

Geoff:
Murph is Tucker’s dog.

Tucker:
My dog, right. So, we would see all these…I got here and I’m like, man, this fucking city is stuck in the eighties. Everyone has fanny packs. What a bunch of fucking weirdoes. And then I remembered talking to this girl about it, and she was like, “No, idiot. Those are all guns.” I’m like, “What are you talking about?” She’s like, “Texas is a concealed carry state.” ‘Cause I lived in Chicago, New York, LA. You can’t have guns in any of those fucking cities, right? Even though I grew up in Kentucky, I just…whatever. So, the next time I was out, I was like, oh, my god, and I looked at the way they were hanging. I was like, of course, those are all guns! It was something like 10% on the fucking trail or something had guns. These fucking people. You’re not robbing anyone in Austin. You’re gonna get fucking capped. Especially if you’ve got Dr. Miller running around. Be careful if you’re crazy around Geoff Miller. He’ll put two rounds in. I’ll tell you a funny story, my buddy is in the FBI, a friend of mine, and they had the same sort of…it’s not Simunition, but it’s the glocks with the recoil and they have, like, a screen, so they can do all kinds of stuff. He was telling me, he was like, “The first time I went through this…” We went to law school together. That’s why I know all the code words. But he was telling me, “Yeah, the first time I went through, I go around this hallway and there’s a kid there on the screen, and he’s got a gun in his hand, so I’m like, ‘FBI, freeze.’ He doesn’t drop the gun.” This is a seventeen-clip glock. Right? Glock seventeen. Pop, pop, pop. He’s like, “I’m putting round after round in the kid’s skull and chest. Doesn’t go down.” It’s like, these life-sized video games. They normally react immediately. They’re really high-tech, and he’s like, “The fucking kid keeps advancing and advancing and I basically get to the screen. I have to drop a clip, reload,” he’s put seventeen rounds! Boom, 18. Boom, 19. Finally, the kid goes down. He’s like, “I was literally about to start pistol-whipping the screen,” ‘cause he was that close. The lights come on. The instructor comes out. He goes, “In six years of teaching this course, I’ve never seen anyone reload.” And they got into a thirty-minute argument about whether he could’ve written that up clean. He convinced the instructor. The instructor’s like, “Fuck it. you win. You pass.” Because we went to law school together. We sat in Crim Pro Police together, and what we would do – this is someone in my books. I’m not gonna tell you who. But what we used to do together was sit together in Crim Pro Police and think up how can we write up shit clean? How can we get away with killing people? So, this has nothing to do with physical movement or women at all, but that’s a pretty fucking funny story. I had no idea you were a stone killer, too, though. You and fucking my buddy, killing people in simulations.

Geoff:
Yeah. But guys, the key point here is that being frightened and drawing and shooting is what the inexperienced amateur does. That’s the wrong…What you learn in simunitions is actually, like, how to back up and move in crescent patterns and how to control your personal space and then how to use verbal commands and you have amazing power, even just in your voice. If you suddenly escalate the volume of your voice from normal speaking to maximum output, you can actually shock people’s nervous systems into just, like…you interrupt their processing loop and it’s amazing, the effect that that can have. Even just having that one tool in your toolkit can save you from a lot of bad encounters.

Tucker:
Did they teach you how to…I forget what the technique is called, but where you basically confuse people? Like, someone’s coming up on you with a gun, like, “Hey, what do you got in your wallet?” And then you just start talking about nonsense and they get super confused?

Geoff:
Yeah. They taught some of that.

Tucker:
Yeah. Like, Derren Brown had a whole episode about this. He had a great show and it never took off in America, his English show. But that happened to me once. I learned that, I read his fucking book, and then someone was…it wasn’t, like, an obvious thing, but I started talking about, “Oh, when I was ten, my grandmother used to bake me these chocolate chip cookies, but she’d always put nuts in them. I hated them.” And he looked at me and he was like, “What the fuck are you talking about?” It made no sense! Did they teach you that?

Geoff:
Yeah. You can just control the frame of the encounter, ‘cause particularly criminals are not that bright, and they…

Tucker:
Especially street thugs, robbing you for a wallet.

Geoff:
Yeah. And if you can just reframe the encounter as, like…they’re trying to mug you, but then…whatever, you act gay and you start trying to hit on them. Or you offer to buy them an ice cream. That can be far more effective, and if you’ve got the self-defense skills, then you’ll have the confidence to do that. You won’t feel like it’s a test of your manhood that, oh, you have to escalate according to the street thug script. You can write your own script.

Tucker:
Yeah. Cade’s in Colorado now. When he comes back – I think he’ll get back before you leave – we’ll do an extended podcast about this, because it’s super fun. Not everyone’s gonna care, but it’s really fun. You’ll love Cade. He’s so fucking cool. Start hitting on him. That’d be amazing. Like, instead of taking my wallet, why don’t I buy you a drink at this bar called the Brass Ass Saloon?

Geoff:
Yeah. The Manhole. There was a bar near Columbia when I was an undergrad, a gay bar called The Manhole.

Tucker:
Isn’t that the iconic gay bar name? The Manhole. It has to be. So, let me just make this clear. Gentlemen, do not learn these skills and then take girls around awful, dangerous areas to show them off. That’s not what we’re advocating. Although that would be hilarious, it would be really stupid. Don’t do that. What we’re saying is learning self-defense, even if it’s just verbal self-defense, which is actually very effective. Verbal self-defense combined with physical self-defense is most effective, but very effective, will not just help you in any situation you might get in, but it’ll also make you far more confident and women read that and find it very attractive, because it’s an honest signal. Martial confidence is an honest signal of ability that matters to them, at least on an unconscious level. Correct?

Geoff:
Yeah. Absolutely.

Tucker:
Alright. So, I think we covered pretty much everything. Yeah, hitting on fucking criminals. So, to sum up, getting in shape is great. Having a great body is great. But, you need to pair it with some sort of skill that you can demonstrate to women that matters, whether it’s hiking or self-defense or basketball. It kind of doesn’t matter, right? Now, you can also combine it. If you really like cycling and that’s how you want to get in shape, great. Fucking ride your bike and get in shape and join bike riding clubs. You can meet girls. You can teach girls how to ride bikes. Whatever. These all go together and they all benefit you and the woman and they’re gonna make you better with women, I think. They will. Do we have anything else to cover? I can’t stop thinking about you hitting on criminals, dude. I would pay $1,000 to watch you hit on a criminal. Sorry, I can’t stop thinking about it.

Geoff:
You know, we could do little YouTube clips of, like…

Tucker:
Someone approaching you, “Give me your wallet.” “You have such beautiful eyes.”

Geoff:
Exactly.

Tucker:
Alright, so do you have anything else actually useful and not my nonsense to add to this?

Geoff:
I think we should go back a little bit and talk about dancing for just, like, a couple more minutes, because I think guys don’t really understand why dancing is attractive to women.

Tucker:
You’ve got to be a great athlete to dance.

Geoff:
Well, great athlete, yeah. Let’s just talk about reasons why that’s attractive, because it’s consistently among the top rated most attractive physical skills when women’s magazines ask women what’s attractive for a guy to be able to do. Handyman, dancing, they almost never mention fighting, although I think they notice…

Tucker:
Because it’s not socially acceptable.

Geoff:
It’s not socially acceptable, right.

Tucker:
Do you know how many girls, when I do MMA, I’ll take them and then we’ll go home. I’ll take them to my gym and, like, walk them through the basics and whatever, and we’ll go home and have ridiculous sex. They’re super turned on by that. Like, almost every single one of them.

Geoff:
Yeah. And this is why women love wrestling with their boyfriends. A lot of female animals actually, as part of courtship, kind of resist males partly to directly test the male’s strength with their own strength.

Tucker:
Like, playfully resist. This is a guy you want to sleep with.

Geoff:
Playfully. It’s like, even female insects will do this, right? They’ll kind of struggle, and if the male is stronger than them, then they want to mate with that male. If the male is weak enough that he can’t even kind of put up a good fight, then she’ll actually seriously resist and not want to mate with him.

Tucker:
Well, it’s like play and children is training for adulthood. Even with a girl you’re dating or hooking up with or whatever, playful resisting and whatever, that’s a test. We’re not talking about any weird, creepy fucking shit. We’re talking about playing with – this is someone that you have a relationship with. Like, that sort of playful wrestling is a test of physical ability, physical strength. Also, it’s a test of empathy, too, ‘cause if you just…if she’s playfully wrestling and you start hitting her and throw her down, it’s like, what the fuck? This dude’s a monster, right? It’s a test of a lot of those things.

Geoff:
Yeah. It tests both your aggressive skills and your self-control skills.

Tucker:
Yes.

Geoff:
And that’s really important, ‘cause if you’re gonna be a good boyfriend…Every woman knows, guys get angry. Every guy gets angry sooner or later. What do you do with it? Can you inhibit it? Can you not lash out?

Tucker:
Are you a monster or a decent guy? Of course. Let’s talk more about the physical stuff. Let’s get back to dancing. So, why is dancing important? How does that tie into that?

Geoff:
So, dancing’s important ‘cause it is a form of athleticism, so great dancers have to be in good shape.

Tucker:
A conspicuous form of athleticism.

Geoff:
Yeah. And it’s strength and aerobic fitness and grace and precision and symmetry and all that. But also, in partner dancing, whether it’s ballroom or East Coast Swing or Tango or whatever it is, if you’re physically touching a woman and interacting with her, it’s a really powerful coordination display. It’s like, how well do you understand how to interact efficiently with her? And that gives her huge information about your social intelligence, your emotional intelligence, and how good you’re gonna be in bed.

Tucker:
No, you know how many women have told me that? Like, “If a guy can dance, I know he can fuck.” It’s sort of like, you know, if you know a girl smokes, she’s gonna fuck. These goofy sayings. Women have the same thing about guys that can dance. Like, if a guy can dance, she might not want to fuck him. That’s, maybe, a different thing, but that’s, like…that’s a very, very good display. Guys, if you want to do something, you don’t care what it is, physically, I cannot recommend dance classes high enough. There are usually more women than men. The women there are usually a lot of fun. They want guys to dance. Your job is to touch women. It’s not awkward if you do it there. You’re supposed to. You’re supposed to interact with women. And if you put in the time and effort, you’re gonna at least get good. Even if you’re not that good, as long as it teaches you how to own your body and your ability, you will…I don’t know any guy who’s ever committed to dance lessons and not met a bunch of women and had a bunch of relationships out of it. I don’t know one.

Geoff:
Now, I haven’t taken a dance class since sixth grade disco lessons at the local community center. Don’t even try to visualize that. But another crucial thing that you kind of alluded to is you’re touching women and you’re interacting with them and there is an erotic electricity, and I think women also interpret dance as your ability to exercise sexual self-restraint. So, if they’re touching you, you’re close to their body, but you’re obeying the rules of the dance and you don’t start, like, grinding and humping on them, they know they’re gonna be able to trust you more if they’re alone with you.

Tucker:
It’s a safety display.

Geoff:
Right. So, if you’re the true gentleman, you can experience going into that erotic electricity with them if it’s, like, a Tango or a Swing, but you don’t escalate it into foreplay or copulation, then they go, “Okay, that’s cool. He’s safe. He’s got control of his masculine energy, his male sexuality. He knows it’s there. I know it’s there. But, he’s not gonna be that date rapist.”

Tucker:
Right. Safety is of paramount importance to women, and if you can dance in a way that’s not creepy or you don’t break the rules, exactly what you said, then you’re safe. Exactly. Dancing gives women all kinds of true, honest signals about your physical ability, your physical health, your emotional ability, your emotional stability, your intellectual stability, etc. It’s a fantastic thing. It’s funny. I’m saying earlier, you should all do MMA. I don’t even dance and I’m saying if you are bad with women and don’t know where to start, you can fucking start with dance class. And if you commit to it, it will help.

Geoff:
It will also increase your confidence. ‘Cause even if you never need to use your self-defense skills, knowing that you have them in the back of your mind just makes you stand taller as a guy. Knowing you can dance, weirdly, also gives you that confidence in social situations with women. It’s not like they’re gonna suddenly say, “Oh, dance for me.” But if that happened, you’re not gonna be that guy who’s like, “Uhh…I don’t know how.” It just builds your masculine confidence to know that’s in my toolkit. That’s available. It’s on tap.

Tucker:
Yep. Alright. Excellent. I think that’s a good place to end. That and the visual of Geoff Miller hitting on criminals.

Geoff:
Well, that’s a big gun you’ve got there…

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